Another Generation
One of our great great great grandparents were Denis Ryan and Mary Gleeson, and they are buried in Newport, Tipperary. Several miles east of Newport, one of our great great great great grandparents, Bartholomew Campbell and Mary Mackey, are buried in Kilnarth cemetery (genealogy: Ruth Ryan (my mother)-Frank Ryan (her father)-Batt Ryan (mom's grandfather)-Nancy Ann Campbell (Batt's mother)-James Campbell (Nancy's grandfather)-finally Bartholomew Campbell (my gggg grandfather)). For my grandchildren, this would be nine generations of our family line, including their generation. We also believe that Bartholomew's Campbell's father was James Cammel, which gives another generation that defines our legacy. The Cammel name was the traditional name even up to our great great grandmother Nancy Ann's day. James Cammel lived further south in Tipperary, and most likely was born around 1740.
Below is Mary Mackey Cammel (Campbell) death notation.
While the Cammel name has been changed to Campbell in modern times, we aren't exactly sure of its origin. It is possible that our "Cammel" ancestors were Campbells and as mercenaries were awarded land in Tipperary. It is also possible that Cammel was of Norman origin. A Cammel was one of the original Norman lords in England after the anglo saxons were defeated by the Normans around 1000 A.D.
Bartholomew record is listed below:
The following are comments from Tim Smith responding to Jim Ryan's email regarding our Mackey connection. We have known for sometime that Batt Cammel's wife was "Mary", but we were not sure of her surname until recently. Tim's finding supports Jim Ryan's research on our family, which surprisingly is not through the Ryan surname connection. In ancestry.com, Jim Ryan is shown as a "fourth cousin"... in GEDMatch, he is shown as a "4.7 generation cousin".
Bart and Mary Campbell buried in Kilnarath cemeteryTim's Response to Mackey connection: The memorial inscribed on the Kilnarath Tombstone for Batt Campbell reads: "Erected by Mary Mackey of Gurtnaskea in memy (memory) of her husband Bartholomew Campbell. Also her son John Campbell who depd (departed) life Jan. 9, 1821 aged 36 years". So that means their son John was born in 1785. (Another one of their sons, James Campbell, is the Smith family's direct ancestor and he died in 1840.) That's the tombstone we will seek as other ancestors will be buried there too.
Keeper Hill. Campbells and Ryans lived on its southern foothills. Batt Campbell was perhaps 25 years older than his son, John. (25 years is defined as a generation.) So Batt would have been born 1760 or earlier. Batt died in 1814 and I attached the St. John Catholic Church parish record for his death. It does not give much information unfortunately. For John's death, it only said he died of 'fever'. I'll need to search for Mary Campbell's death record as I could not find it the first time around when I reviewed parish records.
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James Ryan, Australia, wrote (fourth or fifth cousin per DNA): We actually discovered that James Campbell's mother was Mary Mackey some months back. This was based on Bartholomew Campbell's tombstone that mentioned, "Erected by Mary Mackey- wife". Tom Ryan (sic-another cousin in Australia) has recently had two other family members tested. One is his father's sister, Mary Nicholas, nee Ryan (T404149). She matches you and I and Tom on same segment of DNA on chromosome 12. Her connection with both you and I is 4.7 generations, which is the same as both of our connection with Tom.
Old Catholic Church in Newport where our ancestor Daniel Ryan and wife, Mary, are buried.
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